Ywp, tis weed abatement time again. Yesterday I got a letter from the homeowners association. I thought it was another weed notice. I get them as they seem to think weeds in my yard are a bad thing. It's just nature having a little joke. So, I tried spraying some crap on the yard. Nothing seems to work for long. I'd been using propane but that doesn't last long. I decided it was time for some cancer causing chemicals to keep my yard free of weeds. So far, the weeds are still out there and appear unscathed.